I received The following information & then I decided to show that  the genealogy of Jesus as it is recorded in Matthew & Luke is true:  BY placing it on the web page & ALLOW the Bible to speak for it's self.

The original information is in the black text & my comments are in colouras usual.

Also - If you read the Trinity section you would have realized that I cite the "ENTIRE" passage or majority of it & then ask you to read the rest of the passage. Reason for this is this: It rally peeves me when people CITE "one" to 3 verses & then try to MAKE something out of it. If you read this entire passage YOU are Guaranteed to read LARGE Volumes of Gods Word Text - OK. I am just letting YOU Know in advance.

 I do not know the author of this passage, but His email address is here also.

  From: "Beth Moshe" <timewalker@nsmail.net>

  The Non-Messianic Genealogy of Jesus

 According to the Jewish Bible, one of the requirements for the Messiah is  that he must be a descendant of King David (Jeremiah 23:5, 2 Samuel   7:12-16, Psalms 132:11). All of the major Messianic prophecies indicate   this.

Jeremiah 23: 1-8 KJV:

"Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! Saith the Lord. 2 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord. 3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. 4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the Lord 5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a Righteous Branch, and a King Shall Reign and prosper, and shall execute judgement in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called,  THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 7 therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that they shall no more say, The Lord loveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of Egypt; 8 But, The Lord loveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land."

Please note that Lord said that He will Bring up a righteous Branch BECAUSE PRIESTS DISOBEYED HIS WORD & SCATTERED HIS PEOPLE & IN VERSE 6 HIS NAME IS "THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS."

DO YOU KNOW WHO IS CALLED BY THAT NAME??

When reading the 2 Samuel passage we must read from verse 1 to end of chapter - Yes this passage does talk about MESSIAH - & His coming - But,  it tell us that David wanted to build Lord a House to dwell in - rather then the Tents. But Lord PROMISES David that HE {Lord} will build David a House Everlasting through the coming Messiah. That is the Seed of David, though the Family was  cut short, yet it was NOT cut  off, as the House of Saul was. Never any other family swayed the sceptre of Judah than that of David. This is the covenant of royalty celebrated {Psalm 89: 3} as a typical of the covenant of Redemption and Grace.

Lord also tells David that HE will be punished for his sins & he was punished for his sins - Please read 1 Kings 11: 1 etc.

Regards Psalm 132: 11 - This one is completely take out of context as it tells us that "NO" Veil can hide us from God's  eye. Actually verse 12 confirms this. I will cite verse 10-12 - but please read the entire passage & you will see that David is Praising Lord for His guidance & support - no matter what David did.

10 "Even there shall thy hand lead me, and they right shall hold me. 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hid-eth not from thee; but night shineth as the day: the darkness and light are alike to the."

Please read on! This passage has NOTHING to do with Messiah but David & what he did & what God can do.

In Jeremiah chapter 33, verse 17, God says that the royal House of David  will never lack a man to sit on the throne of Israel. The Christian Bible,  recognizing this important requirement, spends almost two chapters to establish the genealogical record of Jesus as going back to King David.

Lets look what the verse & surrounding verses say also starting at verse 14 KJV:

"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. 15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the BRANCH OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgement and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days shall;; Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness. 17For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel; 18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to do sacrifices continually 19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying, 20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season; 21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his  throne; and with the Levites that minister unto me."

Please read rest of the verses also!

What Lord is saying in verse 17 this:  While Gods 3 covenants , that of royalty with David and his seed, that of the priesthood with Aaron and his seed, and that with Abraham and his seed,  seemed to be all broken and lost while the captivity lasted; but it is here promised that the true intents and meaning of them shall be abundantly answered in the New Testament blessings, typified by those conferred on the Jews after their return out of captivity. The covenant of royalty shall have full accomplishment in the kingdom of Christ, the Son of David; there was not a man to sit on the throne of Israel. David shall Not want a man to sit on the throne of Israel.

Please NOTE VERY carefully what the verse actually states!!  David SHALL NEVER WANT a man to sit on the Throne of the House of Israel!!!

After Messiahs coming David will NOT WANT ANY MAN to sit on His Throne again!!

However, when the genealogical records, as recorded by Matthew and Luke   are examined, critical problems are revealed.

  ACCORDING TO MATTHEW

In the gospel of Matthew, the genealogy of Joseph, who was the husband of   Mary, is traced back to King David. However, Matthew then shoots himself   in the foot by claiming that Joseph was never the father of Jesus. He does   this in order to establish his claim that Jesus did not have a normal   birth. His claim is that Jesus was the product of a miraculous virgin  birth - that Mary never had sexual relations with her husband Joseph, and  that Jesus was conceived through the "Holy Spirit". Therefore, since the  genealogy as recorded in Matthew only traces Joseph back to King David,  but never connects Joseph as the father of Jesus, it is clear that Jesus  has no genealogical record going back to King David. Yes He does! Please Read Luke Chapter 3 & Matthew Chapter 1!!

Christian apologists answer that even though Joseph wasn't the biological father of Jesus, he was the legal father, and, therefore, passed on his  genealogical line through adoption.

Answer for yourself:  Do these Christian apologists answer truthfully?
No.

First of all - folks -when I read ANY Book I like to read the ENTIRE MANUSCRIPT  before I put my foot in my mouth & make a statement as to what the author is ACTUALLY SAYING!!

Do You do the same thing or Just make things up as you go along??

Second - Does the author HAVE TO Give you ALL the Answers in every Paragraph - Or can you research the CONTENTS out By reading little here & Little there & then UNLOCK THE MYSTERY Of what the author is saying?

I Prefer to UNLOCK THE MYSTERY rather then re reading the meaning in every passage. That would be ever so boring & NO ONE would want to read any book if authors RE WROTE EVERY KEY to their Mystery. Also these books would be SO long due to Continuous re writing on KEYS to their mystery.

What Lord wants us to do - Is to READ THE WHOLE BIBLE & GET THE ANSWERS THAT WAY - I have covered the Messiahs Humanity in another section & you can read all the details there - rather then me re writing it here again.

Now to the subject at hand: Joseph wasn't left with many options when he was confronted with the idea that his bride to be was about to have child which wasn't his.

One - he could have her stoned to death as Jewish Civil Law reacquired -  Deuteronomy 22:23 -24 - or - secondchoice was to divorce her, But Lord gave him another option & that was to MARRY HER - Matthew  1:20.

Joseph - Although he knew that taking Mary as his wife would be humiliating thing to him, he did marry her & became here husband & didn't know here until after she gave birth to Jesus (Immanuel - God is With us}.

What in effect Joseph did was this: Joseph chose to obey angels command to marry & his actions revealed four admirable qualities (1) Righteousness {1:19};  (2)  discretion & sensitivity {1:19};  (3) representativeness of God {1: 24}; and (4) self discipline {1: 25}:

What an admirable man:

Because Joseph married Mary - he in effect is Jesus Human father as he is the one who provided for Jesus bringing up. Also Luke tells us in 3: 23 = that EVERY ONE Taught That Joseph was Jesus' human father!

BY Jewish law when a man marries any women then he became the LEGAL Parent of ALL the children that the woman had before he married her.

This is what I mean folks - EVERY Verse must be examined carefully so to get the FULL Understanding of what is being said in God's Word. There are so may clues that are tucked away in the Bible that is a real challenge & LOTS of fun finding the Keys to the Mystery of God!!

Joseph By  MARRYING Mary in effect became Jesus Legal father = or as the Jewish Law reacquired!

Joseph didn't pass on his genealogical line as that wasn't his duty - that could only be done by God as God is the only one who is sinless:

First of all, there is no indication from any of the records in the Christian Bible that Joseph actually adopted Jesus. However, even if a case for his adoption could be made, there is no indication from the Bible that it is possible to pass on one's genealogy through adoption.

There was no need as Lord wants us to read the whole BIBLE & get the WHOLE PICTURE from His word & NOT man made rules  - please read on!! BUT Joseph MARRIED Mary & that was HIS sign of acceptance of Jesus as his child:

Remember - Joseph MARRIED Mary as soon as SHE BECAME PREGNANT & NOT some time down the track.  WE know that HE wasn't Jesus biological father because we study the scriptures & in hindsight from that study we learn that it was to be like that. Jewish people didn't know that Joseph wasn't Jesus biological father at that time - OK!!

They should have known something was on - when John The Baptist appeared on the scene as prophesied by prophet Isaiah 40:3  - but as usual they {priests}  didn't know as they exalted themselves more then the YHWH.

Lets face it it was some 400 years since YHWH spoke to Jewish people before JB came - So they should have known the sign.

It is important to NOTE the first verse on Matthew - It tells us that This is the Genealogy of Jesus Christ THE SON  OF DAVID & Not Joseph.

This in it's self establishes that Jesus was a LEGAL DESCENDENT  od David!!

When Matthew traces Joseph's Genealogy - He is showing us that Joseph is from the House of David - But as we read in Luke's genealogy Jesus is classed as Joseph's son also {Ch. 3: 23ff.} Thus Establishing Jesus LEGAL Right to David throne.

By Tracing Joseph's side Matthew establishes Jesus Line Through MALES from Abraham through David & to Jesus Himself.

By Tracing Jesus line through Mary - Gen. 3: 15 - It ALSO shows us that Jesus Virgin birth is safeguarded in the genealogy.

** As this author indicates - the words "the father of" are used of all the names down to Joseph & then Matthew uses the words - Joseph was the "HUSBAND of Mary" of whom was born Jesus.

For example, a priest (Kohain) is someone who is born to another priest. If your father is a priest, then you are a priest. If a priest (Kohain) adopts a boy who is the son of someone who was not a priest, that child does not become a priest through adoption.

So True!

As we can clearly see from the above, Jesus is disqualified from being Messiah because of his genealogical line. Now, we will look at the gospel according to Luke.

Only if we want to follow man made rules!! I have shown that Jesus is & it is up to you if you wish to believe the Word of God or not!!

Messiah was to be born of a women first & foremost Genesis 3:15 - It didn't say that Messiah would be Born of a MAN & A WOMEN!!  But of a WOMEN ONLY.

Lord had other Plans for His Coming & saving His creations - The Born Messiah would Be a MAN & HE WOULD ALSO BE GOD!

In Isaiah 9: 6  for example Lord tells us the: "For Unto us a CHILD IS BORN , unto us a SON is Given: and the government shall be upon HIS shoulders: and HIS Name shall be Called Wonderful Counsellor, THE MIGHT GOD, The Everlasting Father, the prince of Peace."

Please note very carefully that the Messiah would be (1) SON  (2) One of His many names is MIGHTY GOD!!

I am not sure about YOU - But when YHWH Tells us that The saviours name is MIGHTY GOD - Then I Believe HIM & NOT any man!!  How about you  - who do you believe??

IN ISAIAH 7:14 LORD TELLS US THAT A "VIRGIN" SHALL CONCEIVE, AND HAVE  A SON, AND SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL."

IN ISAIAH  8: 8-10 WE READ THAT "IMMANUEL" MEANS "GOD IS WITH US" --

IN ISAIAH 40:3 WE READ THAT A PROPHET WILL COME BEFORE THE MESSIAH & HE WILL BE CRYING OUT IN THE DESERT "MAKE STRAIGHT IN THE DESERT A HIGHWAY FOR OUR GOD."

PLEASE READ VERSE 4 & 5 ALSO!!

IN MALACHI 3: 1 THE ABOVE PASSAGE IS ALSO CONFIRMED!!

Now I ask you this; Would YHWH lie to us?? I don't think so how about YOU?

On the subject of a "virgin" - NOT VERY CAREFULLY AGAIN that YHWH tells us that a "VIRGIN" shall give birth to a "MIGHTY GOD"

That is a very interesting point isn't it??

This means that a YOUNG WOMEN {as it is in this case} - HADN'T slept with a man - YET She was to give birth

It's all Prophesied in advance so that JEWS WOULD KNOW what to Expect - yet they didn't listen to YHWH again.

This "Virgin" Miraculously Conceived & the Word of God tells us that HOLY SPIRIT Impregnated her.

Are you questioning that GOD - in this case Holy Spirit or Spirit of God as He is know in the Old Testament calls Him - Couldn't impregnate a women with His Seed??

Think about this then: God SPOKE & The entire universe got created - OK !! GOD ONLY HAD TO SPEAK & THE WHOLE UNIVERSE Came Into Existence.

God took a Piece of DIRT & MADE man out of it -

God Spoke & Abraham's wife became pregnant at very old age etc.

Spirit of God is part & parcel of GODHEAD - In Genesis 1:2 It tells us that Spirit of God was moving upon the  face of the waters & taking  part in creation.

Psalmist tells us in Psalm 104: 30 that when Spirit of God is sent - things get created & Job tells us the same thing in Job 33: 4  - that is that Spirit of God made him.

Dear readers,  we either believe God or what man tells us - the choice is yours!!

Messiah was to be Born of a Virgin just as YHWH tells us & HE was. He didn't need to be ADOPTED - But HE was. As Matthew tells in his writings Chapter 1: 18- 23 - Would you please read these verses & see what is written about Joseph & Mary & that these things  had to happen so that everything was fulfilled as it was written in OT. writings, Isaiah 7:14 as mentioned above.

The word used for "Virgin" in  Isaiah 7: 14 is "almah" - which signifies a young  women of marriageable age; Matthew uses the word "Parthenos" which means a "VIRGIN" in the strictest sense, such as Mary professes herself to be in Luke 1:34  where Mary is speaking to an angel, "How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?"

Jesus couldn't have been born of a man & women conception as MALE Line passes on ADAMS Sin  - Not a women - but male sperm is the bit that causes all the problem as far as the sin is concerned.  You can read more about this in "Could  Jesus be an Angel" --- Only God can provide redemption a He is the ONLY ONE without Sin.

ACCORDING TO LUKE

In order to answer this difficult problem, Christian apologists claim that Jesus also traces himself back to King David through his mother, Mary. This claim is made relative to the genealogy recorded in the 3rd chapter of the book of Luke, which is also traced back to King David.

Actually Jesus doesn't trace Himself back to David  or anyone for that matter - But Luke & Matthew do!!

Answer for yourself:  Can we trace Jesus back to David through Luke chapter 3? YES WE CAN!!

There are also a number of problems with this claim. First and foremost,  there is no evidence at all that the genealogy listed in Luke is that of Mary. The chapter clearly says that this is the genealogy of Joseph. Mary  isn't even mentioned. In an article written by Arnold Fruchtenbaum, and circulated by "Jews for Jesus," the author makes the following claim:

Sorry  folks but I can NOT find any truth to the underlined statement in Luke's passage. AS the verse 23 reads like this:

"And Jesus himself began to be about 30 years of age, being {as was supposed} the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli."

Before we go on - ONE thing MUST BE POINTED OUT & that is that WOMEN had no place in JEWISH Teachings & thus ALL WOMEN had to accept MAN'S side of Family & the same applies today. That is why Joseph was used as he was the HEAD of the FAMILY & Not Mary.  Would Jews accept WOMEN as THEIR HEAD OF the family??

This was the Jewish custom - so it must be observed in the writings of God's Word!! Thus We see the usage of CORRECT WRITINGS IN THE BIBLE!!

"In the Greek text of Luke's genealogy, every  single name mentioned has the Greek definite article 'the' with one exception: the name of Joseph (Luke 3:23). Someone reading the original would understand by the missing definite article from Joseph's name that this was not really Joseph's genealogy, but his wife Miriam's (Mary)."

Answer for yourself:  Can we trust the scholarship of Arnold Fruchtenbaum?

** See my comment above on this aspect !! Where Matthew changes the tact in his writing!!

 I am a Bilingual person & my own native language has the same GRAMMATICAL Structure as Greek - I can Honestly say that SOME aspects of Language are understood & we do not need a Definite anything to have people understand & comprehend what is being said.

But MORE to the point Both writes do the correct thing as far as the Jewish custom is concerned.

God gave us BRAINS to reason things out  for ourselves!! If we do not understand what is being said then God Informs us TO ASK & WE SHALL RECEIVE!!

I believe in God's Word 100% & do not trust MAN whom God has condemned in the past for denying Him & for taking His Sheep away from Him.  You make your own mind up - Who do you trust MAN who is known for denying God fo thousands of years or GOD Himself who is Truthful to HIS WORD EVERY TIME OR 100% of the way??

David L. Blank, Professor of Classic Languages at UCLA, made the following observations about these comments:

"According to the Greek original, Eli is indeed the father of Joseph. There is a definite article before each name, except  that of Joseph, and that definite article is in each case the masculine genitive singular article - you. Not only does this  not clearly indicate that Joseph is skipped in the genealogy, it cannot by any stretch of the imagination be taken as so indicated. The author's comments on the Greek grammar of the passage are absurd and manifest an appalling ignorance of the facts of
Greek syntax."

Other Greek scholars agree with Professor Blank.

SEE LAST STATEMENT!!

Even if Mary could trace herself back to King David, it still wouldn't help Jesus. According to the Torah, the mother determines if someone is Jewish, but tribal affiliation and family genealogy can only be traced through the person's father.

JUST AS I SAID ABOVE - FATHER IS THE HEAD OF THE FAMILY HENCE THE USE OF JOSEPH!!

 But women who wanted to be married to the priests had to show their OWN genealogy for at least 5 generations.

Mary's line is shown all the way back to David & then all the way back to GOD!!  Fairly impressive line at that!!

Note that Mary's line & Joseph's line are exactly the same from David to Abraham!!

Just because they are derived from 2 sons of David it makes her in NO WAY any less Royal then her husband as both lines are met in DAVID - who was the CENTRE of the subject in the first place & not His sons.

For example, in Numbers 1:18, we're told that the Jewish people declare their pedigrees according to their fathers' houses. For example, when Queen Athaliah wanted to eliminate the Royal Line of David, she only  killed the males - knowing full well that a female descendant of David couldn't pass on the right to the throne (2 Kings 11 and 2 Chronicles 22).

The fact that the daughters of Zelophchad inherited their father's property (Numbers 27) does not prove that genealogy can be passed through  the daughters. This is born out by Numbers 36, where they are told that  they must marry someone from their father's tribe, otherwise the inheritance would pass out of their family.

Thirdly, even if it could be maintained that a family line could be passed on through the mother, Mary herself was not from a legitimate messianic family. According to the Bible, the Messiah must be a descendant of King David, through his son Solomon and not through Nathan. This is found in 2 Samuel chapter 7, verse 13 it is stated by King David:

"He [Solomon] shall build a house for My name, and I will establish his royal throne forever"

SORRY FOLKS - BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT IS SAID HERE:

WHEN  WE EXAMINE THIS PASSAGE CAREFULLY - WHICH I HAVE TYPED FOR YOU ABOVE - THIS VERSE 13 IS REFERRING TO "GOD"  BUILDING "HIS" THRONE ON THE PROMISED MESSIAH & NOT SOLOMON.

THIS PASSAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KING SOLOMON - THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION BY THIS AUTHOR & NOT WHAT GOD IS TELLING US.

THIS PASSAGE IS REFERRING TO 1 KINGS 8:11 -12 & 19 & ISAIAH  9:6-7

This statement proves that the Messiah will be a descendant of David  through his son Solomon, not Nathan. More proofs concerning David's son Solomon are found in 1 Chronicles 17:11-14; 22:10; 28:4-7.

BUT THE ABOVE PASSAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KING SOLOMON BUT MESSIAH!!

1 Chronicles 17: 11 -14 tell us that David will not be the one to build  a house fo God but Messiah will be:

IN Chapter 22 - king David is the one who is telling his son Solomon that he must build the House for the Lord: A TEMPLE!!

In chapter 28 David once again is the one who is telling his people that God shows him to be the king of Israel for ever & that God told him that His son Solomon was to build Lord His temple. No problems with this:

Please note that EVEN King David is telling us that HE IS THE ONE THAT GOD CHOSE TO BE THE LINE FOR THE MESSIAH & That His son would build a Temple - No more No less!

May Jewish people didn't understand that Messiah was to come & Solomon wasn't it. He was just a person in one line of David. Both Mary  & Joseph are in Line of David - but from different sons. YHWH didn't ever say that he will use only one son as His chosen line for ALL descendants of Messiah. YHWH just plainly stated that He will use the line of David as His chose one that Messiah will come from.  That's why there are two genealogies both joining at David & then one goes to Abraham & the other all the way back to YHWH to show that Messiah is Might God as Isaiah tells us in Isaiah 7: 14 & 9: 6.  I will write more on this later on.

It's interesting that in the book of Matthew, the genealogy of Joseph is  traced back to King David through his son Solomon, but ultimately down to the cursed King Jeconiah. However, in the book of Luke, the genealogy goes  from David, not through his son Solomon, but through his son Nathan. The problem is that even if one wants to maintain that the book of Luke is
tracing the genealogy of Mary and that it's possible to pass on genealogical lineage through the mother, Mary would still not be of help to Jesus, because her line does not go back to David through Solomon.

It didn't have to - as King David is the MAIN Line & Just because YHWH used different SONS it doesn't make YHWH wrong - Does it??

Who knows the Mind of God But God Himself: He doesn't tell us everything at once - He teaches us slowly & as we are capable of understanding more of what He wants us to learn & do for Him He lets us know:

Only man is trying to tell YHWH what He can & can not do. Lets get realistic here - YHWH can & does use who ever He pleases & NOT WHO WE SAY HE should use.

Both lines bring us back to David as he is the focus of This dissuasion & through whom God was going to bring Messiah Trough & Not Solomon. This is at best a delusion by some so to confuse the ISSUE AT HAND - Which is King David & not his sons.

Finally, a fourth problem presents itself. The third chapter in the book of Luke lists both Shealtiel and Zerubbabel in the genealogy. These two individuals also appear in Matthew's genealogy as descendants of the cursed King Jeconiah. Therefore, if Mary descends from Shealtiel and Zerubbabel, this would also place her under the curse of King Jeconiah, and she would be disqualified from ever being a messianic progenitor (request our article about the curse of Jeconiah being lifted).

The dreaded curse: Well what does this cures actually entail? This author doesn't tell us - But word of God tells us that King Jeconiah was to be written as "if" he didn't have children - In Jeremiah 22:30 it clearly tells us that NO MAN of His seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah."

YET - He did have 7 kids & they can be found in 1: Chr. 3: 17 -19.

What Jeremiah is telling us that none of HIS CHILDREN "RULED" upon the throne of David - And None did!!

None of his sons did hold any office as Kings & they were not meant to as God said, But that does not exclude the lineage line.

Actually Jeconiah suffered a terrible death by King Nebuchadnezzar!!

He was a young man of 18 when he inherited his wicked father to the Davidic throne in 597. When he did a dirty trick of burning all the Gods Holy scriptures Jeremiah was instructed to get them re written & Kick the young king out & he did juts that as instructed by God.  His reign was for only 3 months [2 Kings 24:8} His evil deeds caught up with him sooner rather them later & when Nebuchadnezzar  won the war  he had the young king imprisoned in exile. From 597 till 560 BC he remained under - at - least house arrest, but with the  succession of the Evil - Merodach to babylonian regency he was released and, in fact, given a generous pension and even restored to some measure of AUTHORITY [ 2 Kings 25: 27 -30; cf. Jer 52:31- 34.

He did have children see note later on!! Davidic line was passed on through his brother { as was the Jewish custom after the death of a brother - his Brother then married his wife & took on the responsibility & LEGAL Title to his children} = 1 Chr. 3: 16- 19 & Ezra 3:2; see Ezra 2: 2 also; Matt 1: 12 & Luke 3: 27.

In Ex. 21: 1-4 we find that Torah tells us that a system of adoption was established for master of servants to adopt the children under certain conditions.

Regards Zerubbable - one thing I left out so far is this: The curse was lifted by YHWH!!

In Haggai  2:20 - 23 we read {KJV}: "And again the word of the Lord came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying, 21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth; 22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sward of his brother. 23 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take the, O ZERUBBABEL, MY SERVANT, THE SON OF THE SHEALTIEL, SAITH THE LORD, AND WILL MAKE THEE AS A SIGNET: FOR I HAVE CHOSEN THE, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS."

Note very carefully what YHWH is saying about Zerubbabel!!  Not only is he a Governor in Judah - but YHWH CHOSE him & YHWH made him a SIGNET.

Do you know what that means??

Hope so - as it states clearly that curse was lifted by YHWH & that YHWH Chose Zerubbabel to be YHWH servant - just like David was.  Hope that this places the matter in to perspective!!

When Jesus came he had many "What" Jews would consider UNWELCOME People in his genealogy - like Prostitutes, Liars, Gentiles {yes Gentiles} - This shows us that GOD always wanted EVERY Person to be brought back to himself.

In Jesus there is neither  Greek nor Jew - those that were strangers are all welcome. This is the aspect that Israelites don't like, They are No longer elite as they wish us believe. God wants us all in His kingdom - He demonstrated this with Jonah & Nineveh a GENTILE Country when they Repented & God saved them from His destruction & Jonah put on a turn of sulking just like a two year old.  Just because God of Abraham - Isaac saved a Gentile country from destruction!!

God used Israel as His chosen people & nation & THEY were supposed to have passed God's message unto us, but they were to busy creating their own rules & regulations -  they forgot what it was all about.

As the priests increased so did the distortion of God's word - Please read Isaiah 1 {yes the whole chapter & please pay VERY CLOSE attention to first 20 verses & 1 Samuel 15: 18- 29. Entire Book of Hosea is also a very good study.

 ACCORDING TO GOD NOW FOR THE HARD PART

Jesus failed to fulfil the vast majority of the major messianic prophecies found in the Torah, Prophets, and Writings.
Not true! But would like to see some listed.

Jesus Himself said number of time that He has FULFILLED EVERYTHING - like in John 17: 4 & 19: 30, 36 - Luke 12: 50.

See Luke 4: 18- 19 - Luke 16: 17 & 21: 20 - 24 also- as  they are good reading.

He can only be shown to fulfil the created prophecies of the New Testament which are founded on mistranslation, misquotations, and creative design by the Roman Church to distort the truths of the Jewish Scriptures to make Jesus the Messiah.

Please read section on  Humanity of Jesus !!

Jesus was never anointed as King of Israel, at least not yet.

Well lest look at this just in short for time being:  Luke 4: 18 is a good start!! John 3: 34 Acts 10: 38.

His Father ANOINTED HIM - he didn't need any man to anoint Him!!

He was anointed as Prophet to BRING Knowledge & Truth {Dt. 18: 15} As a Priest to Offer the sacrifice and CANCEL The GUILT {Ps 110: 4; Hebrews 10: 10 -14, and as KING To Rule, Guide and Establish the Kingdom of Righteousness {Zec 9:9}. See Also Luke 16: 17 also.

Matthew tells us that Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit man times - see Isaiah 66: 2 as to WHAT LORD WANTS FROM YOU!!

In Luke 1:  35 we are also told that Jesus will be called the SON OF GOD - Guess Who Jesus Father is??

Jesus is called CHRIST, that means , THE ANOINTED,  The same as the Hebrew name MESSIAH.

Jesus is called Messiah the Prince Daniel 9:25 - 26, and often God's Anointed Psalm 2: 2.

Under this character, He was expected" "Art thou the Christ - the Anointed One?  David, the King was, anointed  {1 Samuel 16: 13} so was Aaron, the priest {Lev. 8:12} and Elisha, the Prophet {Isaiah 61: 1}.

Christ, Being appointed to & qualified for, ALL these offices, is therefore called the Anointed.

Jesus was given these status before He came - So there was no need for any further ceremonies. Anyway - YHWH has had enough with all of these rules & regulations - He wanted people to FOLLOW HIM With Faith Just like Abraham did & Not Rules & regulations that MANY Priests set out before people.

I am referring to the additional Rules & regulations that Priests made up to Imprison the God's people.

Without a doubt Jesus never ruled Israel, and the world was certainly not perfected in his time.

This again is the expectation of Jewish priests of that time & some still believe the same today.

Messiah came to FREE people from Bondage of Priests OWN Regulations & Punishments that God never Imposed upon them in the first place. See last few paragraphs again please.

Jews were waiting to be freed from Romans - But as Jesus told them they were wrong. They searched the scriptures daily & hoping to find the TRUTH - Yet they didn't recognize their God In Flesh when He did come.

OT is full prophecies of Jesus' coming before the destruction of the second temple which occurred on 70 AD.

As far as His RULER SHIP Is concerned - God's Place is in heaven & His KINGDOM is In HEAVEN - HE does His ruling from there, He doesn't need a replica of His Kingdom on this Earth.

In addition, he was not preceded by  the return of the prophet Elijah (remember John the Baptist denies flatly he is not Elijah).

JB is the one calling out in the desert just as the Prophet Isaiah Prophesied in Isaiah 40: 3 - So did the prophet Malachi 3:1

Finally, he was disqualified from ever being a  messianic candidate due to his lack of the necessary family background if one hold firm to the virgin birth. The only way Jesus can be of the chosen  line is for a human birth through Joseph and the curse of Jeconiah being   lifted.  In fact, both of the above genealogies are pointless, since both  Matthew and Luke then go on to claim that Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, not by Joseph. One last thing.  Mary was not of the tribe of Judah  anyway.  Mary was probably of the tribe of Levi (Luke 1:5 in conjunction  with Luke 1:36), it is therefore impossible for Jesus to have been the  'Son of David' as was required for the Messiah (Matt. 22:42).

I have all  ready mentioned that Messiah HAD TO BE GOD & HUMAN!! -  Human to Human copulation's CAN NOT PRODUCE GOD - We Humans can only Reproduce another HUMAN - no more no less.

That is why God tells us in Gen. 3: 15 That Messiah will be an offspring of a WOMAN ONLY & NOT MAN ALSO.

Isaiah tells us that this Child that will come of a VIRGIN woman will be called MIGHTY GOD & Malachi 3:1 tells us that GOD Himself will appear for His people. Yet They did not Recognize the signals - That IS why Isaiah 53 is Fulfilled in Messiah - everything that Isaiah talks about in That ONE chapter is Fulfilment of Messiahs torments & frustrations with His Chosen people & nation. They continually despise Him & His words.

I can not emphasize this enough: In ORDER for OUR Redeemer to qualify to pay for OUR SINS  and Bring salvation - HE MUST BE IN ONE PERSON - THAT IS

As it is said many time by OT Prophets & Confirmed by the writer of Hebrews 7: 25 -26.

Virgin birth Fulfils all 3 of these requirements (1) The only way Jesus could be born HUMAN was to be born of a Women as Gen. 3: 15 (b) The only way that Jesus could be sinless was to have a FATHER WHO IS SINLESS & that's why He was conceived by the Holy Spirit - God - see Heb 4: 15 also & Finally (c) The only way that Jesus  could be Divine was to have GOD AS HIS FATHER.

As a Result His conception was NOT By Natural means of MAN & WOMEn - but by God & Women. Which is Supernatural means "The Holy one to be Born will be Son of God luke 1: 35. Thus Jesus is revealed to us in TWO NATURES - Human & Divine - See Isaiah 9: 6 & 7: 14 again.

By Living & suffering as a HUMAN Person - Jesus sympathized with our weakness. As  a Divine Son of God, He has the power to Deliver us from sin's bondage and satan's power {Acts 26: 18; Col. 2: 15; Heb. 2: 14 & 7: 25}.

As BOTH - Divine  & Human, Jesus qualifies to serve as a SACRIFICE for the sins of every person, and as  a HIGH PRIEST to Interceded for ALL WHO COME TO GOD {Heb. 2: 9-18;
5: 1-9;  7: 24 - 28; 10: 4 - 12.

Luke 1:
There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest  named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. (KJV)

These are the parents of John the Baptist!!

Luke 1:36
36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. (KJV)

The Jewish people never rejected Jesus. He as of yet has never measured up to the description that God gave to the Jewish people of who the Messiah  would be.  That is the same whether you are a Christian or a Jew.

What a statement: Since when does God have to measure up to Jewish people??

Lest look at one fact - When Moses went in to the Meet with God & bring back the God's Commandments he was away for 40 days & it took Jewish people less then a month to start arguing & WANTING A SYMBOL of some sorts so that they could worship their visible god. Do the following pictures ring a bell??
 

When people didn't believe things that God did for them while he was only appearing to few people in the SPIRIT from - They wouldn't believe when he appeared in the flesh - What Else doe sHe have to do to prove to His people WHO HE IS & WHAT HE WANTS OF THEM??

He has had enough & Now has taken His salvation to EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM BY FAITH ONLY - just like Abraham did.

Lets face it - who was the SPIRITUAL FATHER of Jewish nation??

Moses  or Abraham??    Abraham right!!

HOW was Abraham saved??  By Faith  Right - So who are we to follow??

God tells us that we are ALL SEED OF ABRAHAM & If we are to be HIS SEED we MUST DO AS HE DID & FOLLOW GOD BY FAITH & NOT LAW!!!

When the Messiah comes if he is Jesus then we will know for sure that there is a Second Coming to fulfil all the prophecies that await fulfilment.

By The time He comes the second time It will be to late for your salvation!!!

BE Like Abraham or die in your own sins is the choice that awaits you & ONLY YOU!!

You are confronted with a choice: you can believe what God said when he  promised the Jewish people a Messiah from the House of David through Solomon, his son, or you can decide that God was lying when He made these  promises.

GOD DOES NOT LIE - WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ONLY TWO SONS OF DAVID IN HIS GENEALOGY IN 1 CHRONICLES 3 OF HIS SON SOLOMON & OF NATHAN WORKING BACK IN LUKE?

THINK ABOUT THE FULFILMENT PART!!

BIG QUESTION - HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT MESSIAH IS HERE??

JEWS DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM IN THE DESERT - NOR DID THEY RECOGNIZE HIM IN THE FLESH.

SO HOW WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE HIM??

HE LIVES IN ME - THAT'S HOW I RECOGNIZE HIM!! Blessed be His Name For Ever!! Luke 17: 21b

We have to search diligently for the truth today because of the tampering  of the New Testament by the Gentile Catholic Church.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ABOVE & MY WEB PAGE ON HUMANITY OF JESUS - I  HAVE USED "OLD TESTAMENT" PASSAGES TO SHOW YOU THAT MESSIAH HAD TO COME BEFORE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SECOND TEMPLE BY THE ROMANS IN 70 AD.

WHICH HAS HAPPENED & IT IS LONG TIME PAST SINCE THAT TIME. THE CHOICE IS YOURS - YOU EITHER BELIEVE WHAT GOD TELLS US THAT WE MUST DO TO HAVE ETERNAL SALVATION & THAT IS TO BE LIKE ABRAHAM OR FOLLOW MAN MADE RULES & REGULATIONS.

Answer for yourself:  Do you have the courage to make that search?

The Choice is YOURS ONLY!!! Jesus or some man who deny Him & have denied Him for centuries!!

Answer for yourself:  Where is the leading of the Holy Spirit in making  these glaring errors?

I CAN NOT FIND ONE IN THE BIBLE - ONLY ERRORS THAT I FIND IS IN MANS MINDS WHO DENY GOD & WHAT HE TELLS US IN HIS WORD

Answer for yourself:  Are you aware that the genealogies of Matt. And Luke were not in the first canon of the New Testament created by Marcion in 140 C.E?

GOD DOES NOT LIE & HE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT TO APPEAR IN HIS WORD!

Answer for yourself:  Now that you know, does it help explain the errors  revealed in this article; namely that the genealogies were not given by  God through Jews inspired by the Holy Spirit, but back written after the fact by Gentile who were unequipped to write the truth?

GOD HATES ELITISM - THAT'S WHY HE CAME WHEN HE DID!! THE CHOICE IS YOURS - GOD OR ELITISTS WHO CLAIM TO BE THE ONLY WAY TO GOD?? Would you please study book of Hosea as it is a very interesting study on how Priests disobeyed God & Took His People away from Him!!

JEWISH PEOPLE REJECTED GOD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS - THEY MURDERED GOD'S PROPHETS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE TO FOLLOW GOD - BUT THEY FOLLOWED THEIR OWN RULES - JUST STUDY HOSEA & DEUTERONOMY & YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT HOW MUCH JEWS REJECTED GOD'S WORD.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CONTINUE TO SUFFER GOD'S WRATH AGAINST THEM??

Answer for yourself:  Are you not the least bit curious, having seen these  mistakes in this article, about other errors in the New Testament that you  accept by faith presently only because you have not been shown the truths that correct such errors?

THERE IS ONLY ONE PLACE THAT THERE ARE ERRORS & THEY ARE NOT IN NT.

Answer for yourself:  Do you want to learn the truth and expose anti-Semitic errors believed as religious truths?

I  WILL BE AWAITING YOUR ANSWERS!!

Stay tuned for Bet Emet Ministries as we explore and look for truth in the  New Testament.  Shalom.

 I WILL BE AWAITING FOR THEM - AS THERE ISN'T ANY - JUST STUDY OT & WHO GOD IS & YOU WILL FIND FOR YOUR SELF WHAT GOD IS REALLY SAYING ABOUT ELITISM & THOSE WHO DENY HIS WORD!!

THEN SEE WHAT HE SAYS IN NT ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT!!

JUST A SHORT SUMMARY ON  MESSIAH'S GENEALOGY FROM BIBLE ITSELF;

IN Matthew 1:1 we read that Jesus is the son of David & Abraham - Matthew does this so to show that God is a God of His word & that He does not lie, as both patriarchs receive this promise form God.

this Son of David & Abraham, was to be the glory of His fathers house, was born when the seed of Abraham was despised people, recently became the tributary to Roman yoke, and when the house of David was buried  in obscurity; for Christ was to be a root out of a dry ground.

Among the ancestry of Christ who had brethren, generally he descended from a YOUNGER Brother; such Abraham himself was and Jacob, and Judah, and David, And Nathan, and Rhesa; to show that the pre - eminence of Christ came NOT from the PRIMOGENITURE of His ancestors,  but from the WILL OF GOD, who exalted them of LOW Degree, and PUTS  more abundant honour upon that part which lacked.

Among the sons of Jacob, besides Judah from whom Shiloh came, notice is here taken of his brethren Judas and his brethren. No mention is made of Ishmael; because they were shut out of the church; whereas all children of Jacob were taken in and therefore are mentioned in this genealogy.

Phares and Zara, the twin sons of Judah, are like wise both named, though Phares only was Christ's ancestor, fro the same reason that the brethren of Judah are taken notice of.

There are 4 women mentioned, and but four, named in this genealogy; two of them were originally strangers to the commonwealth of Israel, Rachab a Canaanites, and a harlot besides, and Ruth the Moabites; for { as mentioned earlier} in Jesus there is NO Greek NOR JEW; those that are STRANGERS & Foreigners are welcome, in Christ, to the CITIZENSHIP of the saints. The other 2 were adulteresses, Thamar and Bathsheba; which was further mark of humiliation put upon our Lord Jesus.

He took upon HIM the likeness of SINFUL FLESH and takes even greater sinners, upon their repentance, into the nearest relation  to himself.

Though divers kings are here named, yet none is expressly called a king but David {v 6 } because with him the covenant of royalty was made & NOT HIS SONS. The Messiah is therefore said to INHERIT His fathers  Throne - Luke 1;32.

In the pedigree of the kings of Judah, between Joram & Ozais {v 8} there are 3 left out, namely, Ahaziah, Joash, and Amaziah: and therefore when it is said, Joram beget Ozias, it is meant, according to the usage of the Hebrew tongue, that Ozias was lineally descended fro him.

We see that there is a mixture of good & bad in the list of descendants - like Wicked Roboam beget wicked Abia; wicked Abia beget good Asa; good Asa beget good Josaphat; good Josaphat beget wicked Joram.

What this is telling is = That Grace of God DOES NOT run in the blood, neither does reigning sin, God's Grace is His OWN & He Gives it or withholds it He pleases.

Josias is said to beget Jechonias {Jehoiakim } and his brethren who was first child & was written as childless - yet it was written as "No man of his seed shall prosper."  He is said to beget Zerubbabel {1 Chr.. 3:19, but as before, the grandson is often called the son.

The line is always brought down, not to Mary but to Joseph as Jews reckoned their genealogies by THE MALES - hence why Luke said that Joseph was Mary's Husband in his line & then carried on with Heli who was of marries side.

The Centre of Both lines is where they meet & that id David on one end & on the other it is Jesus.

This is he that was so importantly desired, so importantly expected. they WHO DO the will of God are in a more honourable relation to Christ that those who were akin to him according to the flesh Matt 12: 50.

Jesus is called the ANOINTED, the same with the Hebrew name Messiah.

Luke tells us that Jesus was about 30 when He began His work - This is aligned to Numbers 4:3 when Jewish person began their ministry.

Where Matthew brought his line to Abraham - That is IN WHOM  ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH ARE BLESSED, AND THAT HEW AS HEIR TO THE THRONE OF DAVID, & therefore begins with Abraham, and brings the line down to Jacob, who was the father of Joseph, and heir - male of the house of David.

Luke designed his line to show us that Jesus was the seed of a WOMEN as per God's promise in Gen. 3:15 that would break the serpents head.

Luke traces his line UPWARD to God - He begins it with Eli or Heli, who was the father of Mary & not Joseph.

Matthew drew his line to the pedigree of Solomon & Luke draws his line to the Pedigree of Solomon's brother Nathan, in doing this he leaves out the whole line of Kings of Judah.

It is so well that our FAITH Does not rely on Knowing the genealogy - But our FAITH IN GOD, Just like ABRAHAM did as we are ALL of HIS Seed.

Abraham wasn't given the LAW & COMMANDMENTS - They were given to Moses some 430 years later, yet he was saved by His faith & Not any observation of the LAW.

Yes Abraham did take his son Isaac to the Mountain to show his faith in God - But it wasn't Abraham who went to God & said - HERE I AM GOD I WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU I WILL TAKE MY SON ISAAC & SACRIFICE HIM TO YOU!!

Did he?   NO He did not.

God asked Him & tested him if he would Obey Gods command & Go take the walk. Which he did without any hesitation. Abraham new from God's promise much earlier when God told him that he would BUILD  A NAtion upon his son. He had faith that His God would resurrect Isaac & bring him back to life - Even when Isaac asked his father Abraham - where is the animal for sacrifice - Abraham replied - GOD WILL PROVIDE IT & God did.  Didn't He??

 Luke's Genealogy finishes with ADAM & Ultimately with God as Jesus Father. This is because Jesus is Son of Man & SON OF GOD Just as God Promised - He kept His word.

This was done to show that Jesus was PROPER MEDIATOR Between man & God & Through This Mediation Jesus Brings back Sons of Adam Back To be Sons Of God!!!