Some notes and comments on various Biblical texts some have used to promote the doctrine of the Trinity. The main approach that will be used to arrive at a proper balanced view of these texts is based on the FACT that the Bible interprets itself.

DEAR READERS – PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE PASSAGE FROM VERSE 7 TO 18. NIV RENDERS THE PASSAGE AS SUCH I WILL CITE FROM VERSE 16:

 “BUT WHENEVER “ANYONE” TURNS TO THE LORD (note that it says Lord & NOT any organization), THE VEIL IS TAKEN AWAY.

17  NOW THE LORD IS THE SPIRIT, AND WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS, THERE IS FREEDOM ( note there is “FREEDOM & not bondage to any organization).

18 AND WE, WHO WITH UNVEILED FACES ALL REFLECT THE LORD'S GLORY, ARE BEING TRANSFORMED INTO HIS LIKENESS WITH EVER INCREASING GLORY, WHICH COMES FROM THE LORD, WHO IS THE SPIRIT.”

 CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN MEANING TO THE PASSAGE?

 Some say that this passage tells us that Jehovah is the holy spirit. Is this the case?

[WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THIS TO BE SO, BUT NOT FROM THIS PASSAGE]

Notice that The verse says "Jehovah is the Spirit." Not, "Jehovah is the holy spirit." This is in complete harmony with Jesus' words to the Samaritan woman he spoke with at the well, at John 4:24: "God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth."

THE ONLY REASON THAT JW’S HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS PASSAGE IS – BECAUSE GB TRANSLATING BODY “MISS RENDERED” THE WORD “KURIOS” AS “JEHOVAH” & NOT AS “LORD”.

 YES = FATHER IS SPIRIT & SO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT – SPIRIT.

NOTE THAT THE ABOVE PASSAGE TELLS US THAT “ANYONE” WHO HAS “UNVEILED” HIS FACE & IS NOT ASHAMED TO BE HOLY SPIRIT'S FOLLOWER – THEN & ONLY THEN WE ALSO “ARE TRANSFORMED INTO HIS (SPIRIT'S) LIKENESS WITH EVER INCREASING GLORY.” ARE YOU CHANGED INTO TO HIS LIKENESS?

NOTE ALSO - THAT ANYONE WORSHIPING JEHOVAH THEN HE "MUST" BE WORSHIPING IN THE SPIRIT & NOT ANY ORGANIZATION!!! ARE YOU WORSHIPING JEHOVAH IN THE SPIRIT??

IF NOT WHY NOT?? HE TELL US THAT WE MUST WORSHIP HIM IN THE SPIRIT & NOT FLESH!!

Yes, God is a Spirit. The Greek word here for spirit, which is "pneuma," is preceded by the definite article, ho. It is thus properly translated as "the Spirit." Yes, Jehovah most certainly is "the Spirit." He being the most powerful of all the spirits.

JUST LIKE HIS SON & HOLY SPIRIT. ALL THREE ARE ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING & ALL EXISTING AS ONE & WORKING FOR ONE PURPOSE. WHICH IS TO BRING US TO HIS KINGDOM. BLESSED BE HIS NAME.

"The undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the sharing in the holy spirit be with all of YOU."

“MAY THE “GRACE” OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND THE LOVE OF GOD, AND THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BE WITH YOU ALL.” AS IT IS RENDERED IN NIV.

UNDESERVED KINDNESS IS WHEN I TAKE MY KIDS LUNCH TO SCHOOL FOR THEM AFTER THEY HAVE LEFT IT AT HOME FOR THE SIXTEENTH DAY IN A ROW.

GRACE- GOD’S RICHES AT CHRIST'S EXPENSE.  WE WERE UNWORTHY. WE DID NOT DESERVE THIS.

THE ONLY REASON HE DID THIS IS BECAUSE HE LOVES US. HE PAID THE PRICE SO THAT WE COULD GO TO HEAVEN.

WE DID NOTHING TO DESERVE IT. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS LOVE FOR US. THE GREATEST LOVE IS TO LAY YOUR LIFE FREELY DOWN FOR A FRIEND. (JOHN 15:13)

 Some think that because there is a "sharing in" the holy spirit, we must conclude the holy spirit is God. Also, they feel that this verse mentions three persons as being "the only True God." Does this verse teach these trinitarian viewpoints? Let us see.

 WELL DEAR READERS – THERE IS – (1) FATHER – (2) SON & - (3) HOLY SPIRIT.

ALL THREE ARE GIVEN “SAME” STATUS & ALL THREE SHOULD BE WITH US. THIS IS WHAT PAUL IS TELLING US, DO WE BELIEVE HIM WHO AFTER ALL WAS INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.

REMEMBER THAT GOD WILL NOT DENY HIMSELF 2 Timothy 2:11-13. BUT MAN HAS & CONTINUES TO DO SO TODAY!!

ARE YOU ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DENY JESUS HIS GLORY & ARE YOU DENYING HOLY SPIRIT HIS GLORY ALSO??

IT IS NOT A WISE CHOICE IF YOU SAID YES - JUST READ ACTS 5: 3-4 & SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HUSBAND & WIFE WHO LIED TO HOLY SPIRIT!

First, lets deal with the point that the verse says there would be a "sharing in the holy spirit." Because of this, some feel that if you "share in the holy spirit," the holy spirit is a person. Is this true?

Paul is telling us that we WILL “FELLOWSHIP” WITH HOLY SPIRIT.

IF HE WASN’T A PERSON – THEN WE COULD NOT FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM IN THE SENSE OF – BEING WITH GOD.

EVEN THIS AUTHOR ACKNOWLEDGES THAT FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE SHARING IN THE HOLY SPIRIT - SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED WORDS!

Well let's look at Philippians 3:10: [WE ARE DISCUSSING 2 CORINTHIANS HERE, BUT WE HAVE TO GO ELSE WHERE AGAIN]." So as to know him and the power of his resurrection and a sharing in his sufferings, submitting myself to a death like his." THIS IS HOW NIV RENDERS IT:

“I WANT TO KNOW CHRIST AND POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION AND THE FELLOWSHIP OF SHARING IN HIS SUFFERINGS, BECOMING LIKE HIM IN HIS DEATH,

 11 AND SO, SOME HOW, TO ATTAIN TO THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.” Please read the whole passage beginning in verse 1. THIS WHOLE PASSAGE IS TALKING ABOUT “NO CONFIDENCE IN THE FLESH.”

 PLEASE NOTE ALSO THAT PHILIPPIANS PASSAGE IS TALKING ABOUT “FELLOWSHIP ”WITH JESUS CHRIST” & NOT WITH HOLY SPIRIT.

JUST AS I CAN FELLOWSHIP WITH YOU WHEN I GET TO KNOW YOU – SO YOU CAN FELLOWSHIP WITH ME & ANYONE ELSE YOU CHOOSE TO FELLOWSHIP WITH.

WHEN THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE TO FELLOWSHIP, THEN IT IS UP TO US TO CHOOSE IF WE WISH TO FELLOWSHIP WITH ANYONE. OTHERWISE WE CAN FELLOWSHIP ALONE - IN PRIVATE & WITH CHRIST!!

Now are we to imagine that the "sufferings of Jesus" are a person because we "share in his (Jesus') sufferings? Hardly. NO, SUFFERINGS OF JESUS WERE THE ORDEALS THAT HE WENT THROUGH.

NEVER HAS IT BEEN SAID THAT THEY WERE ‘A PERSON’ – IF WE DO NOT TAKE UP HIS {CROSS-} THEN WE ARE NOT OF HIS SHEEP, BUT WE ARE OTHER SHEEP WHICH ARE NOT OF HIS FOLD.

JESUS TELLS US THIS IN Matthew 10: 37 - 39 “ anyone who loves his father or mother ‘more then me’ is not worthy of me; ‘anyone’ who loves his son more then me is not worthy of me;

38 and ‘anyone’ who DOES NOT TAKE UP HIS CROSS & FOLLOW ME IS NOT WORTHY OF ME.

39 WHOEVER FINDS HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, AND WHOEVER LOSES HIS LIFE FOR MY SAKE WILL FIND IT.”

 AS YOU CAN SEE DEAR BROTHERS & SISTERS WE – ARE TO FOLLOW “JESUS’” EXAMPLE & TAKE UP OUR CROSSES JUST AS HE DID. THIS MEANS TO BE HUMBLE IN OR HEARTS & NOT TO SEEK THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD, BUT TO SEEK
“SPIRITUAL” LIFE WITH HIM. JESUS TOLD US THAT WE ARE TO LOVE GOD WITH OUR HEART OUR MIND & OUR SOUL MATTHEW 22:37-40.

 IF WE DO NOT DO THAT – THEN WE NOT WORTHY OF HIM.

1 Corinthians 10:16 says: "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf which we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ?"

AGAIN DEAR READERS – PLEASE READ THE WHOLE PASSAGE FROM VERSE 14 – 22 I WILL ONLY CITE FEW VERSES STARTING AT VERSE 14. – “THEREFORE, MY DEAR FRIENDS, FLEE FROM IDOLATRY.

15 I SPEAK TO SENSIBLE PEOPLE; JUDGE FOR YOUR SELF WHAT I SAY.

16 IS NOT THE CUP OF THANKSGIVING FOR WHICH WE GIVE THANKS A PARTICIPATION IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST? And is not the bread that we participate in the body of Christ?

17 BECAUSE THERE IS ONE LOAF, WE, WHO ARE MANY, ARE ONE BODY, FOR WE “ALL” PARTAKE OF ONE LOAF.”

 Here we see that anointed Christians, "share in the blood" of Jesus. Is the blood of Jesus a person?

 NO THE BLOOD OF JESUS IS NOT A PERSON. IT SYMBOLIZES LIFE. PLEASE NOTE - ANOINTED CHRISTIANS ARE “ALL PARTAKERS” & NOT A SELECT FEW.

PLEASE SEE THE LAST FIGURINE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE?

PAUL IS TELLING ALL TO PARTAKE, AND THAT WE MUST PARTAKE SO BE PART OF “ONE” BODY – WHICH IS “BODY OF CHRIST.”  DO YOU PARTAKE IN BODY OF CHRIST OR DO YOU DENY YOUR SELF THIS SHARING IN CHRIST'S DEATH FOR YOU?

WE PRAY & HOPE THAT YOU DO “PARTAKE” IN BODY OF CHRIST.

Philemon 6 says: "In order that the sharing of your faith may go into action by your acknowledging of every good thing among us as related to Christ."

Here we have a "sharing of the faith." Does this mean that faith a person as well?

NO - FAITH IS NOT A PERSON BUT THE ONE - WHO - WE HAVE FAITH IN IS.

 I WILL CITE THE ENTIRE PASSAGE STARTING IN VERSE 4:

“I ALWAYS THANK MY GOD AS I REMEMBER YOU IN MY PRAYERS,

5 because I hear about your faith in the “LORD JESUS” AND YOUR LOVE FOR ALL SAINTS.

6  I PRAY THAT YOU MAY BE ACTIVE IN SHARING YOUR FAITH, SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF EVERY GOOD THING WE HAVE IN CHRIST.

7 YOUR LOVE HAS GIVEN ME GREAT JOY AND ENCOURAGEMENT, BECAUSE YOU, BROTHER, HAVE REFRESHED THE HEARTS OF THE SAINTS.”

 THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL SUBJECT AT HAND DOES IT??

 OK – FIRST OF ALL – WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT “FELLOWSHIP” WITH HOLY SPIRIT.

THIS PASSAGE IN PHILEMON TALKS ABOUT “FAITH” OF PHILEMON TOWARDS JESUS CHRIST & HIS LOVE FOR JESUS. THIS PASSAGE DOES NOT TALK ABOUT “FELLOWSHIP” WITH HOLY SPIRIT – BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

 THE AUTHOR TAKES THE READER TO PASSAGES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER – SO TO CONFUSE THE ENTIRE ISSUE.

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FELLOWSHIP WITH ‘HOLY SPIRIT” IN 2 CORINTHIANS. THEN WE SHOULD GO & READ PASSAGES THAT TALK ABOUT “FELLOWSHIP” WITH HOLY SPIRIT.

WE SHOULD READ ROMANS 5:5 WHERE GOD HAS POURED OUT HOLY SPIRIT INTO OUR HEARTS. ROMANS 16:20 & PHILIPPIANS 2:1 etc.

So by the above, we can see that the term "sharing in," Greek "koinonia," is a distribution of, or enjoying the benefits of, the holy spirit, or anything else for that matter. It hardly identifies something as being a person.

 We are to fellowship “with” HOLY SPIRIT & HE WITH US, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING. WHEN WE “FELLOWSHIP” WITH HIM – WE ARE PARTICIPATING WITH GOD & HIS WAYS & NOT WITH MANS’ IDEAS.

 NOTE ALSO - THAT THE AUTHOR IS TELLING US THAT WE SHOULD BE ENJOYING THE BENEFITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!!

HOW ARE W E TO DO THAT IF HOLY SPIRIT IS AN IT??

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO SHARE IN HEAVENLY THINGS & THAT IS TO PARTICIPATE WITH GOD HIMSELF. WE DO THIS BY HAVING HOLY SPIRIT LEADING THE WAY. JUST AS JESUS TELLS US IN JOHN 14:26 & 16: 12 –16.

NO MAN CAN TELL US OF HEAVENLY THINGS AS MAN IS FROM EARTH.

IF I AM TO TELL SOMEONE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE LIKE, I HAVE TO PERSONALLY SPEND TIME WITH YOU, SO TO LEARN ALL ABOUT YOU.

THEN I CAN PASS THAT INFORMATION TO OTHERS. IF I TAKE THE INFORMATION FROM SOMEONE ELSE – THEN IT IS SECOND HAND & IT WILL HAVE PERSONAL BIAS OF THAT PERSON.

SAME APPLIES TO GOD, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN LEARN WHAT GOD IS LIKE –
IS DIRECTLY FROM HIM & NOT FROM ANY MAN. WHEN GOD RESIDES IN OUR HEARTS THEN GOD WILL OPEN OUR EYES TO HIS WORD & HIMSELF.

Secondly, what about this concept of three persons being identified as "The Only True God?" Well let's take a look at this idea.

“MAY THE (1) “GRACE” OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND THE (2) LOVE OF GOD, AND THE (3) FELLOWSHIP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BE WITH YOU ALL.”

This verse at best tells us about two persons, namely, the Lord Jesus Christ, and God. Notice that the Lord Jesus Christ is distinguished from GOD!

PLEASE NOTE – THAT THERE ARE 3 PERSONS MENTIONED –

(1) GRACE OF JESUS  (2) LOVE OF GOD &  (3) FELLOWSHIP OF HOLY SPIRIT. THREE DIFFERENT IDENTITIES TO ME – HOW ABOUT YOU?

The Lord is just that, the Lord of the congregation. 1 Corinthians 8:6. Jesus is NOT the God of the congregation as this verse and 1 Corinthians 8:6 points out. (More on 1 Corinthians 8:6 under the 1 Corinthians heading under the Scriptural Proofs That The Trinity is Not Biblical section.)

DEAR BROTHERS & SISTERS – THE ABOVE PASSAGE TALKS ABOUT 3 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.

NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO DENY HIM, YOU CAN DENY THE “FACT” THAT PAUL TELLS US HAT THERE ARE 3 PERSONS THAT HE IS REFERRING TO.

YES JESUS IS THE “LORD” OF THE CONGREGATION. YES HE IS THE TRUE GOD OF THIS SYSTEM. BECAUSE IF JESUS IS NOT “TRUE” GOD – THEN THERE IS ONLY ONE THING HE IS & THAT IS FALSE “a god.’  HE CAN NOT BE BOTH.

THINK ABOUT IT IN THIS WAY. LET’S SAY THAT YOU HAVE A GLASS OF “PURE” WATER & YOU GO & PLACE “ONE” PEBBLE OF SALT, SUGAR, SAND OR FOR THAT MATTER ANYTHING ELSE. WHAT YOU HAVE DONE BY PLACING SOMETHING IN IT [NO MATTER HOW SMALL]. YOU HAVE MADE THAT WATER “IMPURE.’

IT’S NO LONGER OF “ONE” ESSENCE, BUT HAS ANOTHER ESSENCE /MATTER INSERTED WITHIN THE ORIGINAL MATTER.

SAME APPLIES TO JESUS, IF HE IS SOME HOW LESS PURE THEN HIS FATHER. THEN HE IS NOT “TRUE” TO HIMSELF & HIS FATHER. SAME APPLIES TO YOUR OWN CHILD, IF SOME HOW HE IS NOT THE OFFSPRING OF YOU & YOUR SPOUSE THEN THAT CHILD IS NOT “PURE” OFFSPRING OF YOU TWO, BUT OF ANOTHER BEING [GOD FORBID] OR OF ANOTHER PAIR.

REGARDS 1 CORINTHIANS 8: 6 – WELL LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT SAYS (NIV AGAIN) –

“YET FOR US THERE IS BUT ONE GOD, THE FATHER, FROM WHOM ALL THINGS CAME AND FOR WHOM WE LIVE; AND THERE IS BUT ONE Lord, JESUS CHRIST, “THROUGH WHOM” “ALL” THINGS CAME AND THROUGH WHOM WE LIVE.”
7 “NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THIS…”

NOTE WHAT THE VERSE 7 STATES - "NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THIS" !!!! ARE YOU AWARE OF IT?

WE CANNOT JUST LOOK AT A VERSE HERE AND THERE, BUT WE MUST INTERPRET THE BIBLE AS A WHOLE. WHY CAN JESUS NOT BE  A CREATED BEING. WE MUST ALWAYS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NATURE OF GOD AND ANGELS WHEN INTERPRETING VERSES LIKE THIS.

ARE YOU ONE OF THESE WHO DOES NOT KNOW THAT JESUS CREATED EVERYTHING?

WORD OF TELLS US IN JOHN 1: 3 THIS ALSO. NOW LET’S LOOK AT GENESIS 1:1

“IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS & EARTH…” IN VERSE 2 WE READ THAT “SPIRIT OF GOD WAS HOVERING OVER THE WATERS.”

AS YOU CAN SEE – FROM THE ABOVE TWO PASSAGES IT WAS JESUS WHO WAS CREATING & HE IS CALLED GOD AS WELL AS THIS – “SPIRIT OF GOD” WAS THERE AS WELL. AS I KEEP ASKING YOU DEAR READERS = WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE
“WHOLE” BOOK & THEN JUDGE IT FOR YOURSELF & NOT “MAKE THINGS UP” FROM A VERSE HERE & THERE.

Finally, this verse tells us about the sharing in the holy spirit, and says nothing about the holy spirit being a person.

NOTE THAT WE SHARE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.  THE VERSE DOESN’T HAVE TO “TELL US” THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A PERSON – IT IS UNDERSTOOD.

WHEN WE SHARE SOMETHING WITH SOMEONE – THEN IT IS A TWO WAY THING. YOU GIVE OR ASK & THE OTHER PARTY RESPONDS IN SOME WAY.

YES, WE CAN SHARE THINGS “WITH” A DOG, CAT, HORSE –an animal-  BUT – WE DO NOT “SHARE IN” THIS ANIMAL NOR DOES THIS ANIMAL SHARE “IN” US.

PAUL CLEARLY MAKES THE STATEMENT THAT WE “SHARE “IN” HOLY SPIRIT” & HE IN US OR AS THE NIV TELLS US – “WE FELLOWSHIP WITH” THE HOLY SPIRIT – SEE BELOW.

“MAY THE (1) “GRACE” OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND THE (2) LOVE OF GOD, AND THE (3) FELLOWSHIP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BE WITH YOU ALL.”

WE CAN ONLY FELLOWSHIP WITH ANOTHER PERSON LIKE YOU & ME! OTHERWISE IT IS “ONE WAY” SHARING LIKE WITH AN ANIMAL. ANIMALS WILL NOT TALK TO YOU, AS ANOTHER PERSON WILL.  ANIMALS CAN NOT SHARE Its INTIMATE THOUGHTS & FEELINGS LIKE A HUMAN BEING CAN.

So this verse hardly teaches the Only True God is 3 persons.
YES IT DOES – BUT YOU CAN ONLY SEE IT IF HEIS INDWELLING IN YOUR HEART, IF HE IS NOT THERE THEN HE CAN NOT OPENYOUR EYES. THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS TELLING YOU TO DENY JESUS & HOLY SPIRIT AS THEY WILL NOT DENY THEMSELVES.

PRAY TO GOD THAT HE OPENS YOUR EYES & INVITE HIM INTO YOUR HEART SO THAT HE CAN RESIDE THERE & LEAD YOU TO HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM. BLESSED BE HIS NAME.